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[serafina20]

Did you know that in order to be really gay, lesbian, or bisexual, you need a reason? And "I'm attracted to girls" isn't really a reason, according to one of my supervisors, which was quickly backed up by San Fransisco co-worker who said all of her gay friends had a reason, like bad experiences with men (or women) or molestation, etc. The ones whose "only" reason is that they are attracted to the same sex are going to wake up one day and realize that they were mistaken.

I wish I was interested in debating, but damn if them getting louder and louder while they say the same damn things *doesn't* win them the fucking argument. I learned that when I used to try and explain "Angel" plots. They don't listen, don't hear, and it's just not worth it.

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[rhiannonhero.livejournal.com]

Just out of curiousity, how old are these people? Are they of our age group? (Meaning early 20-35)??

I'm really surprised at that attitude. Well, I guess I'm not, I hear much worse all the time. But I guess in a way, I'm glad that it still surprises me. I'm not jaded yet. *g*

Do they need a reason to be straight, too?

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[serafina20.livejournal.com]

The one who brought up that being attracted to women isn't a good reason is in her 40s or 50s. The one who said all the 'real' gay people she knows is, I think, around 19 or 20. She's the one from San Fransisco.

I didn't ask if they needed a reason to be straight, because I was too busy trying to get my blood pressure down to acceptable levels. But I *think* that one of the other women was trying to get at that in a round-about way.

[tamalinn.livejournal.com]

"I'm attracted to girls" isn't really a reason,
huh. so i'm not bi? well, that's a surprise. i guess i should call my old girlfriends and tell them.
*snickers*
no offense to your coworker, but i think being attracted to members of your own sex is the best reason for being queer that could possibly be given.

[ingridmatthews.livejournal.com]

I wonder how come all my shitty experiences with women didn't turn me straight.

If that were the case, I'd be a man-shagging maniac by now -- not just a Slightly Considering MR In My Imagination one. ;)

Or is that because the fairer sex is always so much kinder, gentler and eternally more loving to their honies and men are always the Big Bad Guys Who Are Evvvil?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Only not.

PS: I was never molested either.

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[serafina20.livejournal.com]

no offense to your coworker, but i think being attracted to members of your own sex is the best reason for being queer that could possibly be given.

That's what I feel. I mean, I thought I was straight all those years because I knew I was attracted to guys. There was no other reason; that was it. And then, one day, I realized all those feelings I had for women? Not exactly platonic (really, the fantasies of seducing a couple of my friends shoulda tipped me off, but I thought it they were isolated incidences). I mean, yes, I've had bad experiences with guys, but that's not the reason I also like girls. The reason I'm bi *is* that I'm attracted to women; I don't see why that's not enough.

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[serafina20.livejournal.com]

I wonder how come all my shitty experiences with women didn't turn me straight.

And why have none of *their* bad expericnes with me (and they've had a lot) "turned" them gay?

I was just surpised to hear their views on it. To my way of thinking is if you need a reason beyond attraction, it's not as real. I was surprised to hear it the other way around.

[ellenore.livejournal.com]

Hee! Word. :)

[kryptonsite.livejournal.com]

I don't think sexuality really needs a reason. Does one have to explain why they prefer sausage on their pizza instead of tunafish on their pizza? :) Nope. So why should sexual orientation matter?

You are what you think you are. Of course I think everyone's REMOTELY bisexual, anyway. :)

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[serafina20.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I feel the same way. I don't understand why everything has to have a reason behind it, especially who you love or are attracted to.

[noelql.livejournal.com]

all of her gay friends had a reason, like bad experiences with men (or women) or molestation, etc.

Gee, who knew one of my ex-coworkers was now working with you? Seriously, I had this debate with some co-workers many years ago when I was in graduate school. He honestly said to me that I must have been molested and just repressing it. Last time I checked - still not molested and still really gay. Go figure!

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[serafina20.livejournal.com]

People confuse me. I don't understand their attitude sometimes.

[obsidian-rai.livejournal.com]

I find this kinda funny. I like guys and girls. *shrugs* I always have. The gender has never mattered. And I have been molested and had a bad experience with a guy and you know? Don't make a damn bit of difference.

*grins wickedly* Too bad I wasn't there when they made those comments. I'd've had fun debating that.

Rai

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[serafina20.livejournal.com]

Trust me, you can't debate with people who don't listen. It's absolutely impossible. I once tried to tel them it was raining; even after they looked out the window, they didn't beleive me. ;)

[obsidian-rai.livejournal.com]

*snorts* Stupid people. lol